Jack Smith Senate testimony
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Jack Smith testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee on September 30, 2026, about his Trump investigations, declining to invoke the Fifth Amendment and turning back Republican questioning. The discussion has since moved to Senator Schmitt calling Smith a dirtbag and accusing him of perjury without apologizing, and to a correction that Smith attended a Maryland-Iowa women's basketball game with Caitlin Clark in February 2024, not an Atlanta Hawks game. On October 4, Judge Cannon denied FBI agents' motion seeking clarification on testifying before the Fort Pierce grand jury. The hearing's political fallout remains contested.
How 2 podcasts covered it
- Legal AF by MeidasTouch, 2026-09-26 (19:24 to 29:10)
Previews the hearing and its Tuesday start
MacFarlane previews the Senate Judiciary hearing: Smith wants it public, the toll records carry no call content, and the 9 a.m. Tuesday start is set for cable. Adds the Grassley-chaired committee and the 45-page charging document's claim about enlisting Republican lawmakers.
New angle: The hearing is set for 9 a.m. Tuesday, before the Grassley-chaired Judiciary Committee. - Legal AF by MeidasTouch, 2026-09-27 (36:08 to 42:44)
Previews Smith's Senate Judiciary testimony
Previews Smith's Senate Judiciary testimony, recapping his career at The Hague and his work with Karen Friedman Agnifilo in the Public Integrity Division. It stays inside the setup already on the record: the 9 a.m. Tuesday hearing before Grassley's committee. - Legal AF by MeidasTouch, 2026-09-30 (0:08 to 2:57)
Argues the hearing backfired on Schmitt
Popok argues the Senate Judiciary oversight hearing backfired: Smith never took the Fifth and Senator Eric Schmitt's questioning collapsed when its premise proved false.
New angle: Smith did not invoke the Fifth Amendment during his Senate Judiciary testimony. - Legal AF by MeidasTouch, 2026-09-30 (3:04 to 8:42)
Corrects the basketball game Smith attended
Walks through the Schmitt exchange clip by clip: the toll records fight, the attempt to tie Smith to Fani Willis, and the Hawks-Hawkeyes mix-up that turned the gotcha back on the senator. Adds the specific game Smith actually attended.
New angle: Smith attended a Maryland-Iowa women's basketball game with Caitlin Clark in February 2024, not an Atlanta Hawks game. - Legal AF by MeidasTouch, 2026-09-30 (8:47 to 9:56)
Adds Schmitt's dirtbag insult and perjury claim
Plays the Schmitt exchange and Klobuchar's defense of Smith, noting Schmitt called Smith a dirtbag and accused him of perjury and never apologized. A new on-the-record detail from the hearing itself.
New angle: Schmitt called Smith a dirtbag and accused him of perjury, and did not apologize. - Legal AF by MeidasTouch, 2026-09-30 (9:56 to 16:41)
Plays clips of Smith's opening and low points
Plays extended clips of Smith's opening statement and the hearing's low points - the Graham exchange, Booker's floor-style rebuttal, the basketball gotcha. A retelling of the September 30 hearing that stays inside the coverage already on the record. - Legal AF by MeidasTouch, 2026-10-01 (9:11 to 16:12)
Recaps the basketball exchange and non-apology
Recaps the Schmitt exchange in detail, playing the clip of Smith denying the Atlanta Hawks game and naming the Maryland-Iowa game with Caitlin Clark, then reads Schmitt's non-apology. It stays inside the hearing coverage already on the record. - Legal AF by MeidasTouch, 2026-10-04 (0:51 to 2:41)
Recaps the hearing and the Schmitt exchange
Recaps the Senate Judiciary hearing and the Schmitt exchange, with Klobuchar correcting the Hawks-Hawkeyes mix-up. It stays inside the week's coverage, adding only the gag order and Cannon's dismissal as background. - Legal AF by MeidasTouch, 2026-10-04 (2:48 to 10:10)
Adds Cannon's refusal and prosecutor exits
Recaps the Smith hearing and adds a new front: Judge Cannon refused to hear FBI agents' motion about testifying before the Fort Pierce grand jury, and roughly six or seven prosecutors quit the grand conspiracy investigation after D. Genova.
New angle: Cannon denied FBI agents' motion seeking clarification on testifying before the Fort Pierce grand jury. - Legal AF by MeidasTouch, 2026-10-04 (1:00:55 to 1:02:34)
Recaps the Smith hearing as political malpractice
Recaps the Smith hearing as political malpractice for Trump, then retells Cannon's one-line denial of the FBI agents' motion and the gag order that prompted it. Stays inside the week's coverage. - Big Take, 2026-10-18 (1:45 to 5:31)
Recaps the testimony and the basketball mix-up
Recaps Jack Smith's Senate Judiciary Committee testimony, where Senator Eric Schmidt's attempt to catch Smith in a lie about an Atlanta Hawks game backfired because the texts were about a Maryland game. Notes Smith said nothing about the Mar-a-Lago documents and a Florida judge blocked his final report.
New angle: Senator Schmidt's text messages placed Smith at a Maryland basketball game, not an Atlanta Hawks game. - Legal AF by MeidasTouch, 2026-10-20 (4:37 to 6:57)
Plays Smith's Senate testimony clips
Plays clips from Smith's Senate Judiciary testimony to preview how he would testify against Trump, including his statement that the investigation developed proof beyond a reasonable doubt. A retelling of the hearing already on the record. - Legal AF by MeidasTouch, 2026-10-21 (6:15 to 8:03)
Plays Smith vowing not to be silenced
Plays a clip of Smith's Senate Judiciary testimony in which he stands by his House testimony, says he will not be silenced by threats of prosecution, and says the President threatened him with jail. A replay of the hearing already on the record. - Legal AF by MeidasTouch, 2026-10-21 (10:40 to 12:41)
Plays the Senate clip of Smith's hearing
Plays a clip from the Senate Judiciary hearing: senators ask Smith about the tooth fairy, the Easter Bunny and Jimmy Hoffa, and accuse him of violating the Speech or Debate Clause. Smith says he took constitutional law at Harvard and calls the hearing of constitutional and historic importance. A replay of the hearing, not a new development.