# Packers-Lions showdown

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The Green Bay Packers visited the Detroit Lions for a divisional game on October 25, 2026, and Detroit won 20-17. Before kickoff the argument was Detroit's offense, tied with Buffalo at nearly 33 points per game with Jared Goff throwing the most touchdown passes of any quarterback without an interception, against a Packers defense ranked number one over the previous three weeks while Detroit sat last in yards against. After the win the discussion has moved to how Detroit got there: Goff should have thrown three interceptions and the Lions fumbled twice in three plays, while Green Bay leads the league with 18 drops and is tied for the most field goal and PAT misses at seven. Detroit held Green…

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## Segments

- [First Things First](https://boilpoints.com/u/firstthingsfirst), 2026-10-21, 28:30 to 42:45: **Picks Detroit and adds its scoring and St. Brown splits**. Picks Packers at Lions in the Must-Win segment and goes to the Detroit side: the Lions are whole again, with Brian Branch playing his first game and Amon-Ra St. Brown's thin history against Green Bay as the hook. Adds Detroit's offense at nearly 33 points a game and St. Brown's career splits against the Packers. New angle: The Lions are tied with the Bills at nearly 33 points per game on offense.
- [First Things First](https://boilpoints.com/u/firstthingsfirst), 2026-10-21, 2:02:27 to 2:07:41: **Previews Packers-Lions through Love's slump**. Previews Packers at Lions with a long Jordan Love segment: career lows in completion percentage, touchdown rate and passer rating, offset by dropped passes and no run support. Retells the Goff interception-free streak and the Lions' passing-yard problems already on the record.
- [First Take](https://boilpoints.com/u/firsttake), 2026-10-22, 39:03 to 42:21: **Stacks Goff's clean touchdowns against Love's line**. Previews Packers at Lions through the quarterback matchup, stacking Goff's interception-free touchdown total against Love's 11-to-4 line, and notes Green Bay's fourth-ranked defense against Detroit's 31st. The picks split, with Stephen A. Smith taking the Packers in the moment while preferring Goff long term. New angle: Goff has the most touchdown passes of any quarterback without an interception this season.
- [First Things First](https://boilpoints.com/u/firstthingsfirst), 2026-10-22, 14:09 to 20:10: **Reframes the test as Green Bay's defense**. Previews Packers-Lions and reframes the question: Love lighting up Detroit's defense proves little, so the test is whether Green Bay's defense, number one over the last three weeks, can hold Detroit's offense. Notes Detroit is off a bye and Branch is back. New angle: Green Bay's defense has ranked number one in football over the last three weeks.
- [First Things First](https://boilpoints.com/u/firstthingsfirst), 2026-10-22, 1:51:36 to 1:57:28: **Adds both teams' defensive rankings**. Previews Packers-Lions with a former coach, weighing Detroit's bye-week defensive fixes against Green Bay's three-game win streak and Josh Jacobs' return. Adds the current defensive rankings for both teams and the fact that no team has gotten less from its running backs than Green Bay. New angle: The Lions are last in yards against and 30th in points against; the Packers are 10th in both.
- [The Athletic Football Show: A show about the NFL](https://boilpoints.com/u/theathleticfootballshowashowaboutthenfl), 2026-10-23, 25:30 to 34:44: **Breaks down the run-defense mismatch**. Deep dive on the Packers-Lions matchup: Detroit's gap-run game is back and Cade Mays may return at center, while Green Bay's run defense sits 28th in DVOA. Adds the Branch playing-time note and the Zaire Franklin trade, then debates whether either team is a real NFC contender against the 49ers. New angle: The Packers rank 28th in run defense DVOA, and Cade Mays is set to potentially return this week for the Lions.
- [The Herd with Colin Cowherd](https://boilpoints.com/u/theherdwithcolincowherd), 2026-10-23, 46:21 to 50:40: **Picks Green Bay over Detroit in the dome**. Picks Green Bay in Detroit, leaning on the dome fit of the Packers' passing game, Watson and Golden against a man-heavy Lions secondary, and Jacobs' return upgrading a slow running back room. Stays inside the matchup preview, adding no new reporting.
- [The Herd with Colin Cowherd](https://boilpoints.com/u/theherdwithcolincowherd), 2026-10-26, 29:27 to 36:33: **Breaks down the Lions' handed-away win**. Breaks down Detroit's 20-17 win over Green Bay as a game the Lions handed away and the Packers could not take: two Lions fumbles in three plays, a failed fourth-and-one from their own 23, a missed 35-yard Packers field goal, and dropped interceptions. Credits Josh Jacobs' return for giving Green Bay a physical component it had lacked. New angle: Detroit beat Green Bay 20-17; Goff should have thrown three interceptions and the Lions fumbled twice in three plays.
- [Nightcap](https://boilpoints.com/u/nightcap), 2026-10-26, 0:01 to 3:24: **Counts the drops and the missed kicks**. Opens the show on the Lions' 20-17 walk-off win and goes to Green Bay's self-inflicted damage: a league-leading 18 drops, seven missed field goals and PATs, and the officiating flashpoints, including Xavier McKinney's postgame rant about the flag thrown after a Packers player kicked an official. New angle: The Packers lead the league with 18 drops and are tied for the most field goal and PAT misses at seven.
- [Nightcap](https://boilpoints.com/u/nightcap), 2026-10-26, 3:24 to 10:25: **Adds the penalty totals and McKinney's complaint**. Stays on the Packers-Lions aftermath but moves to discipline: the flag count in Detroit, the two-game penalty total, and Xavier McKinney's postgame complaint about the officials. Adds the season-long penalty ranking to the drops and missed kicks already on the record. New angle: Green Bay has 19 accepted penalties over its last two games and averages nine and a half per game, the most in the league.
- [Nightcap](https://boilpoints.com/u/nightcap), 2026-10-26, 10:37 to 14:20: **Puts Goff's turnover-free marker on record**. Turns to Goff's line in the win and puts a new marker on the record: the first quarterback with at least 14 touchdown passes and no turnovers through six games. Frames the MVP case around a defense that keeps the record modest. New angle: Goff is the only quarterback with 14-plus touchdown passes and no turnovers through six games of a season.
- [The Herd with Colin Cowherd](https://boilpoints.com/u/theherdwithcolincowherd), 2026-10-26, 22:12 to 33:38: **Breaks down the officiating and kicking**. Runs through the Packers-Lions game through officiating and kicking: over-officiated late hits and defensive holding, LaFleur declining to comment, and coaches refusing field goals. Stays inside the postgame read, with a detour into Lamar Jackson's contract.
- [The Dan Le Batard Show](https://boilpoints.com/u/thedanlebatardshow), 2026-10-26, 27:58 to 33:04: **Puts a number on Detroit's fourth-down stubbornness**. Re-litigates Dan Campbell's fourth-down call near his own 20 in the tie game and puts a number on the stubbornness: Detroit is 31st in fourth-down EPA this season after ranking first the previous five seasons, per Doug Clawson. Also notes the defense is last in yards per game. New angle: The Lions rank 31st in fourth-down EPA this season after ranking first the previous five seasons.
- [The Dan Le Batard Show](https://boilpoints.com/u/thedanlebatardshow), 2026-10-26, 33:04 to 35:25: **Adds the league-wide penalty figure to the fallout**. Picks up the postgame fallout from Detroit's 20-17 win: the Packers' complaints about the officiating, Tom Brady's pointed criticism and Xavier McKinney calling it bull. Adds a league-wide figure - accepted penalties are at their highest since 2005 - to frame the national discussion. New angle: Accepted penalties through this point of the season are the most since 2005.
- [First Take](https://boilpoints.com/u/firsttake), 2026-10-26, 9:43 to 16:53: **Works the officiating angle on the late win**. Works the officiating angle on the Lions' last-minute win: the Brooks roughing call in the fourth quarter, Brady and Blandino siding against it, and McKinney's postgame complaints. Balances it against Green Bay's league-leading penalties, drops and two missed field goals. New angle: Green Bay has drawn eight roughing the passer penalties this season.
- [First Take](https://boilpoints.com/u/firsttake), 2026-10-26, 16:42 to 21:20: **Reacts to Detroit's win and rips Campbell's call**. Reacts to Detroit's 20-17 win over Green Bay: Stephen A. ranks the Lions a top three or four NFC team on offense, rips Dan Campbell's fourth-down call from his own 23 in a tie game, and the panel credits Kelvin Shepard's best-called game with Brian Branch back.
- [The Right Time with Bomani Jones](https://boilpoints.com/u/therighttimewithbomanijones), 2026-10-26, 4:59 to 7:18: **Puts numbers on Detroit's defensive showing**. Picks the defensive side of the Lions' 20-17 win over Green Bay and puts specific numbers on it: six yards per pass attempt, three per rush, no pass play over 30 yards and no run over 10. Argues Detroit is a problem if the defense is merely passable. New angle: Detroit held Green Bay to six yards per pass attempt and three per rush, with no pass play over 30 yards and no run over 10.
- [The Right Time with Bomani Jones](https://boilpoints.com/u/therighttimewithbomanijones), 2026-10-26, 10:57 to 16:31: **Argues Campbell's fourth-down play was too slow**. Bomani spends the segment on Campbell's fourth-down gamble in the tie game, arguing the play was too slow developing and rejecting the guaranteed-possession defense. He reaches for Switzer and Belichick comparisons; the substance stays inside the decision already on the record.
- [The Rich Eisen Show](https://boilpoints.com/u/thericheisenshow), 2026-10-26, 22:04 to 29:10: **Recaps Detroit's win with franchise-history marks**. Recaps the Lions' 20-17 win over Green Bay through Detroit's offense and defense, adding franchise-history marks for Gibbs, St. Brown and Goff and noting the Lions' 3-0 home start, their first since 2007. New angle: Gibbs is the first Lion with five 100-scrimmage-yard games in the team's first six since 1997.
- [The Rich Eisen Show](https://boilpoints.com/u/thericheisenshow), 2026-10-26, 29:02 to 38:08: **Runs through the Packers' officiating complaints**. Runs through the Packers' officiating complaints after the Detroit loss: the Wyatt flag thrown from an official's back, LaFleur's non-answer and McKinney's profanity-laced rant, plus the pool report from referee Alex Moore. Stays inside the penalty and drop numbers already on the record.
- [The Herd with Colin Cowherd](https://boilpoints.com/u/theherdwithcolincowherd), 2026-10-26, 13:40 to 15:48: **Asks whether drops are contagious**. Recaps the Packers' drops in the Lions loss and asks Hasselbeck whether drops are contagious; he recalls a Seahawks season leading the league and stresses fundamentals. Stays inside the drop and kicking numbers already on the record.
- [The Ryen Russillo Show](https://boilpoints.com/u/theryenrussilloshow), 2026-10-26, 27:46 to 32:47: **Breaks down St. Brown's routes outside**. Nate Tice breaks down the scheme: Detroit moved St. Brown out of the slot to hunt Green Bay's outside corners, and he ran 14 routes out wide for nine targets, seven catches and 109 yards. A tactical read the postgame coverage did not have. New angle: St. Brown ran 14 routes outside for nine targets, seven catches and 109 yards against Green Bay.
- [The Ryen Russillo Show](https://boilpoints.com/u/theryenrussilloshow), 2026-10-26, 32:47 to 40:16: **Debates Campbell's fourth-down call**. Debates Campbell's fourth-down call from Detroit's own 23 in a 17-17 game, with Tice defending the game-flow logic and Russillo uneasy about the short field. Stays inside the decision itself, adding only a NextGen toss-up read and Gibbs' negative yards before contact.
- [First Things First](https://boilpoints.com/u/firstthingsfirst), 2026-10-26, 27:22 to 40:55: **Adds Trey Smack's season kicking numbers**. Jennings walks through the Packers' self-inflicted loss: Trey Smack's short misses and a blocked kick, Golden's drops, and the Jacobs drop. The debate over Campbell's fourth-down call stays inside the postgame read, but the kicker's season numbers are new to the record. New angle: Trey Smack is 7 of 11 on field goals this season and has missed two extra points.
- [First Things First](https://boilpoints.com/u/firstthingsfirst), 2026-10-26, 1:36:10 to 1:42:38: **Blames Green Bay's special teams for the loss**. Runs through the Packers-Lions game again - the fourth-down decision, the two missed field goals, the drops - and lands on the takeaway that Green Bay's special teams, not the officiating, cost it. Stays inside the week's coverage, with a playoff-picture argument on top.
- [PTI](https://boilpoints.com/u/pti), 2026-10-27, 14:46 to 18:23: **Argues Campbell's gamble was high risk**. Jeff Saturday argues Campbell's fourth-and-one gamble from his own 24 was high risk and low reward, crediting a Josh Jacobs drop and a shanked kick for the outcome, and calls the two roughing the passer flags egregious. Opinion on a game already on the record.
- [The Herd with Colin Cowherd](https://boilpoints.com/u/theherdwithcolincowherd), 2026-10-28, 1:00:42 to 1:06:09: **Defends Campbell's fourth-and-one from his own 24**. Defends Campbell's fourth-and-one from his own 24 with five minutes left in a tie game, arguing the timing window between four and six minutes makes it right for an offense-first team. Stays inside the decision already on the record.
- [Nightcap](https://boilpoints.com/u/nightcap), 2026-10-28, 1:14:48 to 1:18:13: **Recaps the walk-off win and the drops**. Recaps Detroit's 20-17 walk-off win and stays inside the numbers already on the record: 18 drops, seven missed kicks, the penalty count. Plays McKinney's postgame rant about the officiating and the flag thrown from the ground after the official was kicked.
- [Nightcap](https://boilpoints.com/u/nightcap), 2026-10-28, 1:19:12 to 1:26:13: **Argues the Packers were lucky to win**. Returns to Green Bay's drops, missed kicks and penalties after the Lions loss, arguing the Packers are lucky to have won as many as they have. Debates whether the mistakes are coached or condoned and replays the official getting kicked. All of it stays inside the numbers Nightcap already put on the record.
- [Nightcap](https://boilpoints.com/u/nightcap), 2026-10-28, 1:26:24 to 1:30:08: **Recaps Detroit's win through Goff's line**. Recaps Detroit's win over Green Bay through Goff's line and his no-turnover start, then credits Branch's interception and Hutchinson's motor before landing on the defense needing to improve. Stays inside the postgame read already on the record.
- [First Take](https://boilpoints.com/u/firsttake), 2026-10-28, 44:33 to 49:29: **Reacts to the loss through Jordan Love**. Reacts to the Lions loss through Jordan Love, arguing the Packers are asking too much of him because of drops, penalties and no run game. The one new item is LaFleur softening on Micah Parsons, saying he hopes Parsons practices next week. New angle: LaFleur said he hopes Parsons returns to practice next week, after weeks of hard noes.
- [First Take](https://boilpoints.com/u/firsttake), 2026-10-28, 20:36 to 23:35: **Defends Campbell's fourth-down call**. Mad Dog's Mad About segment defends Campbell's fourth-down decision from his own mid-20s in a 17-17 game, arguing a punt hands Green Bay the ball and the clock. Opinion and re-litigation of a call already on the record, with a passing note on his own over 10.5 wins bet.
- [The Pat McAfee Show](https://boilpoints.com/u/thepatmcafeeshow), 2026-10-28, 1:16:38 to 1:24:14: **Adds Joseph's return to Detroit's safety tandem**. Reacts to the Lions' win over the Packers and adds a roster note: Kirby Joseph is back on the practice field, activated off PUP, giving Detroit its intended safety tandem with Brian Branch. New angle: Kirby Joseph is back on the practice field after being activated off PUP.